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[-] sugartits@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Shhhh. We're hating on YouTube as we want ad free videos but don't want to pay for it and we're hoping that bitching about it on a tiny social media platform will somehow get Google to pivot their entire business model.

We don't need no facts here.

[-] YouAreLiterallyAnNPC@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

Did YouTube make all of those videos? If not, then how much should YouTube get from hosting them? This whole argument that people just want free shit isn't just wrong, it's also annoying. People have proven time and again that we're willing to pay for quality and convenience. And not in that order. Once again it's an issue about access, how they're fighting tooth and nail to gatekeep that access to continue to control the flow of capital so they can also play the kingmakers in digital media. Messages like yours are so off base that it's hard to believe you're not projecting your own shitty world view, but also somehow think that because you'll gargle some shitty ads every once in a while that you have some moral high ground. AKA; one of those people who believe they're right and that's all that matters and you don't actually have to think any deeper. PS: I hope I'm wrong. Please feel free to correct my own world view if I am.

[-] Streetdog@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

My local supermarket isn't producing most of the products it has on its shelves, so fuck them too I guess.

[-] YouAreLiterallyAnNPC@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Good counter-point, except that your local supermarket has to respect three separate market pressures that Google (edit: to be clear, I mean YouTube) clearly has no regard for:

  • Tight regulations.
  • Respecting its consumers.
  • Robust competition that isn't prone to monopolistic enterprise.

So no, I don't feel that we should 'fuck them, too I guess' because when I go to the supermarket I feel like I'm the customer, not the product. I feel that I get what I'm paying for and that my time is respected. Nothing about YouTube leaves me feeling like that. There's no sense that I'm a respected customer and therein no sense that there's any value in trying to respect a clearly one-sided relationship.

[-] Streetdog@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Supermarkets use extensive marketing to trick you in buying all kinds of stuff. Just like Google (ahem, YouTube) does.

But you want their stuff, so you have to deal with their stuff.

We can discuss further on the subject of tracking that happens when you are a regular and have a membership, or the tracking of digital transactions. Even if you and I don't necessarily partake in that by buying everything with cash to stay as anonymous as possible.

I could ask you to clarify how you feel "respected" in that environment, but I have honestly little interest in the answer.

[-] YouAreLiterallyAnNPC@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I feel respected because I grab the product I want, take it to the register, and pay for it and get the result that I expect based on what I paid. Marketing and manipulation aside, I acknowledge that's part of being an educated consumer. I'd thank you for putting value in my response, but I'm not interested either.

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