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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by PropaGandalf@lemmy.world to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Hey mateys!

I made a post at /c/libertarianism about the abolition of IP. Maybe some of you will find it interesting.

Please answer in the other community so that all the knowledge is in one place and easier to discover.

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[-] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How so? I agree with you that this measure will fundamentally change the reasons for innovation. Innovation itself will no longer be lucrative because you cannot be sure that you will be rewarded for your research.

In my opinion, it will rather arise from the urge to deliver a better end product with which one can differentiate oneself from the competition for some time. Or out of a thirst for knowledge that is fuelled by the fact that all knowledge is openly accessible. Or from the sense of community that comes from working together on a project to improve one's own skill and improve the circumstances for all.

[-] awsamation@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

None of those motivations you listed actually need IP to be abolished though.

If you're trying to differentiate yourself from the competitors, having IP protection is jn your favor. The large corporation you're competing with can't just swoop in and destroy you by making an identical product at a such a loss of profit until you run out of money.

If you're fueled by creating open source knowledge, well you can already do that. You can choose to release your IP into the world for anyone to use unrestricted.

And for a sense of community, well that's just the second point again. Abolishing IP was never going to make you feel community with Amazon. But having IP isn't preventing you from having community with individuals. You can still work on a project together without abandoning the idea of IP ownership.

[-] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

But why do we need it then anyways? It is a kind of paternalism of the people and a restriction of their freedom. The argument that IP should protect small businesses from big bad businesses is, in my opinion, inaccurate. It's the big companies that sit on their patents or hoard their licences and make a fortune.

[-] awsamation@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Because those big businesses are only motivated by the profit possibilities.

If you take away that protection then they'll just stop trying. They don't give a shit about any of the motivations you listed. They'll wait for you to come up with something new, then use the advantage of their size to force you out of the market. You'll end up either giving up or trying again at which point they'll just repeat the cycle.

And there's nothing you can do to stop them because now they can be as open and blatant as they want with directly using your exact plans.

[-] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Just copy their work then. See? No more Nintendo compaints...

[-] awsamation@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

And you're going to compete with them on price then? Even when they can and will sell every unit at a loss until you're driven out of the market. Unless you're wealthy enough to be part of the good ol boys club, you can't afford to play that kind of game. They can.

[-] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

No, not on price, on orginality. On the stories you can tell about the creation of your product. If everything around you gets automated, created by AI, copied by big corpos and soulless copycats you will have the choice: Cheap and uninteresting or maybe a bit more expensive but with a personal connection. It's your decision to choose.

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