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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 11 months ago

It's a bit misleading to just say "Russian". Dagestan is part of Russia but this is a group of Muslims with cultural affinity for Palestinians, not hard-drinking dudes in abibas.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Russia has colonized quite some ethnicities, also countries that are mainly Muslim… so why are you making the distinction? They are part of Russia.

[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Because every ethnicity that was ever conquered by Russians takes offence at being called Russian.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Depends who you ask. To a lot of Russians and a lot of minorities within Russia, they're just that: colonies. Unlike the other European empires the Russian empire never properly disbanded, and so in a lot of ways saying a guy in Dagestan is Russian is like saying Narendra Modi is British.

It's worth mentioning that Putin is actually fairly verbally supportive of a civic nationalist Russia, so he would say Dagestanis are Russians. That doesn't mean he acts like it, but he would say that. This is a big part of the reason Navalny would only be only an incremental improvement: he all-but-openly sees them as lesser people to be civilised.

[-] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I don't think you can call all ethnicities in Russia "colonies". Not every multicultural state is a colonial empire

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, but that one literally is (you know where Russia came from, right?). You could argue it's changed, but in the post-Soviet world at the very least you'd be wrong. If you want gory details I suggest Kamil Galeev, he has some pretty close analyses of the system in Dagestan and Chechnya.

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